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Reviewer: skiutahnum1 Signed Date: 2020.04.10 - 06:25AM Title: Necessary Roughness

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Nothing like fighting a troll be come bff...kutgw



Reviewer: sunnyseaforever Signed Date: 2012.05.20 - 08:16AM Title: Necessary Roughness

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That was rather intense and it was much darker than canon. Great take of the 'troll in dungeons' in your universe.



Reviewer: Monty Signed Date: 2009.02.25 - 02:31PM Title: Necessary Roughness

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Hellooo again,
A few of my thoughts as I've been reading so far :)

The chapter 7 view of the Weasley's is a v fresh perspective from Harry's PoV and definately seems to fit with his previous experience. Enjoyed the tension, and a nicely emotional resolution to it at the end.

H&G (and to sme extent a lot of the other 11 year-olds) do seem quite a bit older than their age in terms of their thought processes, but hey, it makes it more interesting. The H/G development has been very nice and its really tangible how much closer they are in comparison to other characters. The whole eating issues was a great point about sharing senses! On that note I also loved how you showed how confusing it was to be flying and talking o McGonogall at the same time, v nice snappy alternation really showed how confusing it must be!

Chapter 10 was an awkward situation v well handled, its great that you're not shying away from stuff. The interplay of the differences between Harry and Ginny is great, despite their connection. Loved the development that this gave to their relationship with hermione too. On a Hermione note I thoroughly enjoyed hr and Dumbledore's reactions - its great to have lots of personal reveals, much more interesting than one big one to everyone. Again on the whole older than they should be thing I'd question her intelligence, or maybe rather the manner in which it comes across, but I enjoyed it none the less :)

The more recent flying bits haven't ben quite as good as the first, and it would have been nice to have it a little more elaborated - I've never been flying! But the acion scenes in this chapter were good and definately showed another dimension to H&G's connection. It also deepend our understanding of Ron who, before now, has seemed a little bland and remote.

Looking forward to the disclosure to the twins!

Monty

Author's Response: I've tried to make Harry and Ginny sound as age-appropriate as I can, but in some ways it just doesn't work. If I kept the characters at that maturity, I think it would be very hard to tell the story I'm telling. So I do the best I can.
Hermione, however, is something of an exception. At age 11 (almost 12), she's far more mature than most children and even teenagers. Especially in situations where she feels competent and familiar. She's a fun character for me.
Thanks for reading.



Reviewer: muggle_born Signed Date: 2008.01.30 - 08:47PM Title: Necessary Roughness

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I especially enjoyed the darker side of Ron here. Knowing future canon, I think it fits. I just started reading this series... and if you actually make it all the way through you'll have earned my admiration because you're being so thorough! I'm looking forward to reading on.

Author's Response: Yeah, I think Ron's got a few flaws that are sortof hard to define, but easy to see in action. Maybe that makes sense.
Thanks very much!



Reviewer: Vermouth Signed Date: 2007.11.16 - 07:48PM Title: Necessary Roughness

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Intense chapter. The girls are very well portrayed. It's just so typical when you are growing up to be intimidated by girls that are taller than you.. and Ron and Hermione are really well characterised. Well done.

Author's Response: I'm glad the girls are believable. As you might guess, that part was difficult for me. Thanks!



Reviewer: Azabaza Signed Date: 2007.02.05 - 08:16PM Title: Necessary Roughness

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"He’s such a . . . he’s such a boy.

Err, yes.

I’m well aware that you’re a boy too, Harry, but you’re not like Ron! At least never when I’m around, and as I’m always around, there’s no problem.

Thanks."

In each bond story, I see something similar to these lines, and each time, I still fall over laughing.


Author's Response: Yeah, that's one of those that's just too much fun to skip, even if others have done it before. Thanks!



Reviewer: lolamadrid Signed Date: 2006.12.16 - 01:32PM Title: Necessary Roughness

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Took a break and came back to read and now several questions are niggling away...

I wonder is Percy confiding in Scabbers? Will that pose any kind of problem in the future?

What will they do over the summer? Spend the night at the Dursleys or the Burrow together?

This is one of those times I'm feeling terribly impatient that the whole series isn't already written. lol. but that's a good thing, right? means you're doing an excellent job of keeping your readers interested.

Thanks again for the great story.

Author's Response: Good questions!



Reviewer: Chreechree Signed Date: 2006.09.14 - 03:16AM Title: Necessary Roughness

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Hey Dave,
Ginny is intimidated by the maturity of to 11 year old girls? Hahahahaha! Oh, I love that so much, but at least their stupidity has its uses.

It’s going to be quite a challenge for the second of the pair to stay calm when the first is in a rage. With shared emotions, is that even really possible? Well, obviously they just did…

Now, your much more violent version of the troll fight is likely more realistic than canon. I can see why JKR didn’t want her first years getting bloodied by the troll, but I’ve always thought it was quite lucky (implausible) that they managed to get away with no injuries. I can’t believe Ginny gnawed on his leg. I don’t blame her for getting sick afterward. I thought Ron losing control was disturbing but, again, likely realistic in a kill or be killed situation. Ron just managed to kill. Does he know he killed it? Hermione’s intervention in that moment is an interesting way of bringing them together. Like canon, it was still banding together in that moment, but the overwhelming sense after your scene is much darker which does put an interesting spin on that coming together.

The most interesting part of this scene, of course, was seeing Harry and Ginny battle together. Working together is both a blessing and a curse. Yes, they can help each other in unique ways, but it has to be hard to fight when you feel the physical effects of the others injuries. After the fight, of course, they realized the other major problem – that they were too worried about each other. This, oddly enough, gets back (in part) to my take on the H/G dynamic in Book 7 and how loved ones on the battlefield are a distraction. I know. I’m projecting too much, and that concept is no fun for us shippers. I back this up by canon evidence. While Harry was chasing Snape and Draco in HBP, he paused long enough to take down the Death Eater who was dueling Ginny. Well, of course he would, and, in that case, it was not a problem for him. Still, in the midst of his need to catch Snape – that drive to tend to that vital task, he still stopped to tend to Ginny. That’s where she’s a liability to him during a fight. That’s not to say I don’t want her there…

Excellent chapter.
~Christine, KWSS


Author's Response: It's so easy to believe what we want to believe, isn't it?
You know that 'voice of reason' that you always hate to hear when you're upset? What if that voice had a mind of its own?
Does Ron know for sure? Does it matter if he does?
What if your liability is also an asset? How do you manage both?
Thanks for reading and thinking and helping.



Reviewer: moshpit Signed Date: 2006.09.08 - 02:17AM Title: Necessary Roughness

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Rubbing the fur the wrong way on one may have consequences to those not one. As discovered by the Troll, it doesn't take much of one to knock some sense into heads when necessary. But the later ramifications of hasty actions are always beyond one's ability to grasp.

Can fractions of one ever truly lose another, or will it just be a problem of perception and magnitude? Inputs abound, but the one fraction loss may not alter the sum, which is always greater than the sum of one's parts.

Sleep is best fitful, for it prepares for the fights ahead.

Author's Response: Clever troll, wasn't it?



Reviewer: Ginny Weasley Signed Date: 2006.09.06 - 09:49PM Title: Necessary Roughness

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I love this story so far! Please update soon!

Author's Response: Thanks for reading!



Reviewer: am12 Signed Date: 2006.09.06 - 02:57PM Title: Necessary Roughness

Isn't it odd... I read the chapter, I enjoyed it, I reviewed it. But days later, I suddenly find myself wondering why on earth Harry and Ginny didn't FRY the ogre? they toasted the Weasley's table a few chapters back. They noticed things getting warm several times when they were getting angry.

I suspect that they were just too busy struggling to survive to have time to get angry.
But what I think will be particularly interesting is for Harry and Ginny **themselves** to think about this and wonder why this happened. Perhaps they should experiment with this ability of theirs and see if they can better control this. Or if not, at least know that they need to get really angry to use it.

So, new chapter soon?
best,
...art

Author's Response: Short answer? Physics. The clues should be in previous chapters as to why that couldn't work. Aside from that, yes, there was a lot more fear and instinct than anger flying around.
New chapter, hopefully, tomorrow or Friday.



Reviewer: hpf2114 Signed Date: 2006.09.06 - 01:40PM Title: Necessary Roughness

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Reviewer: Baby_Huey Signed Date: 2006.09.06 - 11:59AM Title: Necessary Roughness

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It is always amusing to read some of the phrases that youcome up with.

Author's Response: I'm glad I think up some good ones occasionally. Thanks for reading.



Reviewer: Macsr71 Signed Date: 2006.09.04 - 09:04AM Title: Necessary Roughness

NO!, I certainly did not mean that Ginny would prefer Harry to kiss some other girl, I meant it would be gross for Ginny to experience Harry kissing some other girl what with their shared senses. (and vice versa) I can only imagine the running commentary she would be giving him through this bond will he is out on his date.(Harry, what do you see in this bubble head? don’t put your hands there, - ick, not on the lips and on and on)

Author's Response: Sorry, I was teasing you a bit. It was clear what you meant about Ginny's distaste for Harry kissing girls other than her. Just as a thought question, though... why couldn't h/g appreciate each others' appreciation of others?



Reviewer: Rhetor Signed Date: 2006.09.03 - 11:15PM Title: Necessary Roughness

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Very nicely done.

I can see that I was dead on target about "what Harry would do if Ginny were hurt." Thanks for the confirmation.

More interesting, to me, is the extent to which feeling one another's pain is a distraction from action. Harry and Ginny each came close to getting killed because s/he was so strongly feeling the other's injury that s/he couldn't concentrate on fighting. I'm not sure whether to think of this from the point of view of H & G separately -- "I was distracted by my pain but my partner was eventually able to recover and fight back" (in which case it's an advantage), or from the point of view of the H-G unified entity -- "What's the point of having two bodies if they both get incapacitated by injuries to only one of them?"

I see your Molly is fleshing out a bit, but her reaction continues to strike me as extreme and a bit one-dimensional. Why is she so obsessed by the sexual end of this? (Oh, that's a fine question coming from an SIYE reader, isn't it?)

I'm becoming frustrated (as I expect you intend me to be) in my efforts to figure out whether H & G are "really two" or "really one", or exactly in what *ways* they are "two" or "one." Clearly they have two minds, two sets of opinions, two sets of feelings -- yet their feelings heavily influence each other so profoundly that, given more than a minute or so, they effectively have one set of feelings.



Author's Response: I hope that Harry's response (and Ginny's, of course) was not too much in question prior to this chapter.
It's not all sunshine and daisies, is it? There are downsides to even the nicest things. What, then, is the answer?
Molly has a bit of a hangup, doesn't she? There's a lot more to it than the 'sexual end', though that is clearly the most obvious point of contention.
Yup, that's the right question to ask. For now, all I'll say is that there is an answer.
Thanks for reading (and paying close attention).



Reviewer: proyjr Signed Date: 2006.09.03 - 12:10AM Title: Necessary Roughness

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great story thanks

Author's Response: Thanks for reading.



Reviewer: Macsr71 Signed Date: 2006.09.01 - 04:11PM Title: Necessary Roughness

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Another excellent chapter – a good mix of everyday and some exciting (and hopefully) one-time events. Harry/Ginny (Harinny? Ginarry?) had better figure our how to separate their viewpoints or besides a good first blast of power their not going to be much use in a fight what with being bombarded with two sets of pain / viewpoints / worries / concerns about the other and such.

God bless Arthur and his accepting ways, I’m sure that once Molly can get her head around the fact that she’s not loosing a daughter but gaining a son, and a son that will never hurt her little girl Harry will get an overload of what a Mother is all about. Let hope he can handle it when the dam breaks.

Up to this point is appears that Ginny is getting the better end of the deal what with her going from near-squibb to strong & powerful witch. Will she always do the talking for the couple? (Well, I guess it works that way in my house so what the heck!)

Interesting questions being raised here about love and their falling in it. Not sure if you are one entity that falling in love with yourself is a good thing. And, if you have always had one person in your head could you fall in love or would it be a close sibling sort of thing?

From your hint in chapter one about grown men giving up on romance I would say that Ginny and Harry will always and only have eyes for each other but what a hoot it would be to read about one remotely experiencing the other one’s date and then giving feedback to the one on the date while it is going on! (Harry, don’t you make me experience kissing that girl!)

One last thing, Thank you for taking the time to answer each and every one of these reviews. While I understand reviews are a gift (or a curse?) to the writer you taking the time to “speak” to each one of us humble readers, most of who have trouble writing a shopping list, is a real treat. Keep it coming please.


Author's Response: Separate? Why not integrate?
Ginny's getting the better end? That's interesting. I've had others say Ginny was getting the short end of the stick. Maybe that means I'm doing something right. As for the talking, well.... there's a time and there's a place for everyone.
harry and ginny were separated during a very important time of their lives. it makes a crucial difference, I think.
Do you mean that Ginny would prefer that Harry kiss some other girl?
I enjoy responding to reviews. In fact, I welcome comments via review, private message, email, or message-in-a-bottle. It means that people are interested. And if you'd seen my shopping list, you might not be so generous with your praise. =)
Thanks for reading and reviewing so thoughtfully.



Reviewer: CodeRomance Signed Date: 2006.09.01 - 04:09PM Title: Necessary Roughness

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Ahh loved this chapter! i loved what you changed about it. its not much different from the book but i especially liked that the troll actually died! you did a nice job of including ginny in the scene!! Update soon! love it!!

Author's Response: Thanks for reading.



Reviewer: Comet Moon Signed Date: 2006.09.01 - 11:58AM Title: Necessary Roughness

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Dave, you out did your self.

The Firery Bitter makes the scene. Busted a lung with that one

The friendships our cementing. I can already see Hermy and Ronniekins closer then initially. What with the bond, I can really see them closing the gap, rather then being third wheels.

Hagrid would be a good one to tell the secrete to as well. But it would last as long as three seconds then bye bye secrete.

I like the closeness your developing with Minerva and Ginny. Much like Harry and Dumbledore at the good times.

Got to run.

Can't wait for more.


Ja ne

Jim

Author's Response: I think McG has always taken better care of Harry than any of the other professors, so I'm bringing that out in this story. She's not just a stern Transfiguration professor. Thanks for reading!



Reviewer: Silverwolfsm Signed Date: 2006.09.01 - 11:44AM Title: Necessary Roughness

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I found this version of the Troll incident to be very well done, a lot more violent, but still very good. I guess that having Ron experience the dark side of emotions will help him to become more open to other situations. I'm glad that, though Ginny is the most important one to Harry, Ron and Hermione are still going to be very close friends to him. It just doesn't seem right to me any other way. Yeah, I've read other stories where this happened and it was still good, but I will always like these two as the best combination.

Author's Response: I couldn't bring myself to make massive changes to Ron and Hermione. They are not the same people they are in canon, but I couldn't exclude them. They give Harry (and Ginny) very different things, all of which he/they need/s.
Thanks for reading.




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